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19/08/2008

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Praise the Lord!
(English is my second language)
It amazes me that everybody is talking about Todd's failed marriage and whatever sin he commited!
With me,the problem is to try to make Christians understand that it is wrong to compare a man's tattoos to the Wounds of Jesus!
On June 27 I wept before the Lord concerning this subject and I asked the Father to stop this nonsense.
The Lord spoke to me but I am not going to declare in public what He said!
However I emailed the Senior Pastor at TACF (Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship) recently about these events and I mentioned that if those leaders who "crowned" Todd had enquired from the Lord,they would'be never done that.On June 27 I had already heard from the Lord concerning that ministry.I also mentioned that their lack of discernemnt shows that none of them is spending enought time with Jesus.
Yesterday Steve Long emailed me back saying that I wasn't walking according to their motto:"Walking in God's love and giving it to others"so he suggested that I should "differ" from the church.
I told him that I can't differ from that in which I am not involved anymore!
Then the Lord told me that because Steve Long "kicked" me without a cause ,the Lord Himself will kick him!(Psalm 78.66)
Now I feel like repeating what they say at TACF all the time: MORE LORD!

About my previous comment:
I forgot to mention the word "piercings"!
To those of You who are not aware of what I am talking about:
Todd Bentley has a T-shirt that says Jesus loves him,his piercings and his tattoos because Jesus also has piercings and tattoos.
He is referring to Jesus Precious wounds in His hands and feet!He is also referring to the Book of Revelation where it says that Jesus has a Name written in His leg "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS"!
That's why I wept before the Father!-Comparing a man's piercings to Jesus's
Precious wounds,is a blasphemy!
I kept asking the Father to stop that guy and to take away from him what He had given him because he wasn't honoring the wounds of Jesus!
Some Christians would call it witchcraft!Let me tell You what I heard:The Father said to the Son:"The woman is right.I am going to do what she is asking!"
The fact that Steve Long was offended by my comments,it shows that they are all
honoring a man more than they are honoring God!
I wasn't judging anyone!This is about the Sacred wounds of Jesus!
So as I said before,Steve Long "suggested" that I would differ from the church.
Just let me have the joy to repeat what the Lord said:"Because he kicked You out without a cause,I myself will kick him!".
Do You want a scripture,people?-I'll give You one!-Psalm 78:66 (...and he smote his enemies in the hinder parts).
The amazing thing is that one of the leaders of TACF invited me to go on a mission trip because I was such a woman of God!-I've given many prophetic words there before,in intercession in the presence of their leaders (in their conferences).Now all of the sudden I am kicked out!
AWAKE UP STEVE LONG AND SMELL THE COFFEE!
I AM JEWISH AND WHEN THE LORD SAID: "TOUCH NOT MINE ANNOINTED AND DO MY PROPHETS NO HARM' IT WAS FOR US!(Now it's also for every Christian).Nowadays preachers use that scripture in order to hide their sins behind it.
A while ago I saw in my spirit Yeshua (Jesus) and the Father laughing with my last sentence in my previous comment!Like they say at TACF all the time,I say again concerning the kick in the butt:"MORE,LORD!" HA! HA !HA!-JESUS IS LORD!
Lord,shake what needs to be shaken!Clean Your house!
I love You,Lord!
Protect me from their curses!

CORRECTION:
When I mentioned the word "leg" I meant "tigh" REV.19:16
God Bless all of You!

Sadly, it appears that Joyner and some of the other so-called prophets would be defending Bentley even if he had killed someone. They would compare him to Moses or David or Paul just as Ryan Wyatt has currently compared Bentley to Christ, saying his critics are like those who cried, “Crucify him.” The sickness continues.

The common excuse — to blame God because Todd was allegedly overworked and stressed by “almost 100 days straight of constant ministry” is factually false as well as Spiritually erroneous. First, Bentley constantly took breaks from Lakeland, at first for weekends, but half-way through, he was gone for weeks at a time and guest speakers were common. Further, he did not work an 8, 10, or 12 hour shift. The services were never longer than a few hours, and most of that time was devoted to worship, not Bentley’s histrionics.

Most importantly, when God is moving, He does not overtax and weaken His people to the point they are caused to fall into sin. Instead, they are strengthened, empowered, and enlivened by the true Holy Spirit. Those of us who have been in real revival (which begins with repentance, not hype and “miracles) know that you can be involved every night for months and be surprised at the supernatural strength you find to continue in the Glory. In short, if God was really in it, Bently would not have been involved in an affair and drinking heavily while it was going on, and would not have fallen into sin in the midst of a true move of the Holy Ghost.

The obvious conclusion is that it was false from the beginning, as now verified by its rotten fruit.

He's a man like anyone else. He has the guts to preach like many of us wouldn't dare to. He has made mistakes, but if you hold them against him, your faults will be held against you.

What christians and people in general need to learn if to take what is good, implement it, and throw out the rest. It is time for wisdom to take hold in all your hearts.

To Connie:
Do not for one minute try to judge someone, who are you anyway?
And tattoos.....are symbols. Not actual wounds. He gets that, Connie you should to.

To Author:
You discern whether something is good or not through the fruit, right?
Many, Many people were saved and healed. I personally was part of the movement and saw thousands of people delivered because of what Jesus brought through this man. You have no right to call anything false and so lead people to believe what Jesus did in their hearts was fake. You leave that to them and God.

Todd Bentley is fallible because he is human, God just needed a channel in which to express his love, and Todd offered that. It is time for more of us to rise up and carry the torch; not revel in bringing God's works to mere rubble.

You're missing the big picture here.

i can't wait to see when God judges all of you for all this. a 'matter of prayer'? oh yeah, well if it was that would have been the first thing on the list. you people are like noah's son who wanted to uncover him. you people need to get lives by getting with God or whatever you want to call him in your book., it's more like the snake of gossip from hell. what's next impalement for the guy? he's human, so are you and NO MAN IS WITHOUT SIN!!!!!! get God's point now? to you condemn him or love him back to health?
todd needs to get with God about this issue, not judgmental gossips. shame on you, shame on you. no wonder no one like me as a Christian, because everyone hates Christians because of people like you.

It's my observation that ALL human beings have something to hide!
We are all sinners - even the ones who are quick to point an accusing finger at someone else - and such accusers are only disciples of Satan - the Chief Accuser.
Such accusers are far more clever than the accused in hiding their own sins.
Only the Perfect should 'throw stones'!!!!!
I am a follower of Jesus Christ and have a deep desire to become more and more like Christ - but I find myself like Paul in the Bible "doing things I don't want to do or not doing things I want to do".
When I sincerely confess my sins He is faithful and just to forgive my sins!!
Only Christ in us makes us stand totally righteous before God our Father.
I certainly DO NOT SUPPORT sin of any kind and I don’t understand everything that folks like Todd Bentley do - but I love Todd Bentley and all those accused - because the work that God has started in them (and in me) HE WILL COMPLETE in due course - even if we seem imperfect for a while!!

The good news the Todd's handlers Bill Johnson, John Arnott who is on the Fresh Fire board, and Che Ahn are being also exposed as wolves in sheep's clothing.

Do a search on "john arnott fraud" and what do you find?

My reply to You:
First of all, I am not judging anyone!
You ask me who I am?-I AM A LOVER OF GOD READY TO DIE FOR HIM AND FOR HIS WORD!
It's not my fault that You didn't understand me!-Actually it looks that no one does but God!
I'm not judging any man's tattoos!-My own son has one and he also has piercings (against my wish but he is an adult).The difference is that m son doesn't walk around telling people that Jesus also has tattoos and piercings!
Saying that is bringing what is Sacred to God down to the level of their foolishness!
It amazes me that people are honoring more a man's tattoos than Jeuss Wounds!
I know who I am!I am a lover of God who spends many hours daily with Him and who knows His heart!(Many times from 3 AM even if I have to work)
No,it's not pride,it's a fact!
Maybe You should check how many hours a week You are giving to God instead of accusing me when I wasn't judging anyone!
Your lack of understanding about what I wrote shows that You too don't hear the heart of God!
I know how the Father feels about this subject and knowing that my heart is in agreement with His,is enough for me!
I don't do anythinmg on my own!-I always seek God's will!
Let those who have ears hear what the Spirit is saying!
King Saul touched the UNTOUCHABLE when he offered the sacrifice that only Prophet Samuel had the authority to do!-As a result,God removed the kingdom from him!
That's what happens when We touch the UNTOUCHABLE!
Again I say: I am not judging any man's sins or tattoos!This is about the exolanation they give for having them!-It looks that most people are so confused that they can't even understand what I am saying!

My reply to You:
First of all, I am not judging anyone!
You ask me who I am?-I AM A LOVER OF GOD READY TO DIE FOR HIM AND FOR HIS WORD!
It's not my fault that You didn't understand me!-Actually it looks that no one does but God!
I'm not judging any man's tattoos!-My own son has one and he also has piercings (against my wish but he is an adult).The difference is that m son doesn't walk around telling people that Jesus also has tattoos and piercings!
Saying that is bringing what is Sacred to God down to the level of their foolishness!
It amazes me that people are honoring more a man's tattoos than Jeuss Wounds!
I know who I am!I am a lover of God who spends many hours daily with Him and who knows His heart!(Many times from 3 AM even if I have to work)
No,it's not pride,it's a fact!
Maybe You should check how many hours a week You are giving to God instead of accusing me when I wasn't judging anyone!
Your lack of understanding about what I wrote shows that You too don't hear the heart of God!
I know how the Father feels about this subject and knowing that my heart is in agreement with His,is enough for me!
I don't do anythinmg on my own!-I always seek God's will!
Let those who have ears hear what the Spirit is saying!
King Saul touched the UNTOUCHABLE when he offered the sacrifice that only Prophet Samuel had the authority to do!-As a result,God removed the kingdom from him!
That's what happens when We touch the UNTOUCHABLE!
Again I say: I am not judging any man's sins or tattoos!This is about the exolanation they give for having them!-It looks that most people are so confused that they can't even understand what I am saying!

Jen,
I just read Yor comment again:no wonder You can't understand me!-Your involvement in that "movement" is blinding You!
You are right in one thing: tattoos are not wounds!(neither are piercings).
So why compare them to the wounds of Jesus?
Now I understand why You can't even understand my point!
I know Todd Bemtley!-He came to my church many times!He didn't have any tattoos when the Lord started using him.However I am not even judging him for that!
AWAKE UP AND HONOR JESUS WOUND'S MORE THAN A MAN FOOLISH TALK!
My former Pastor was a part of that bunch that crowned him and now they are embarassed and trying to save face!
What the Lord told me He would do,it shall be done because God is not a man that He should lie nor a son of man that He should repent.
FIX YOUR EYES ON JESUS AND NEVER HONOR ANY MAN ABOVE GOD! (Yes,being offended by my words it shows where Your heart is).
Todd Bentley didn't die for You on the cross,JESUS DID!

I honor Todd not above God or any other being, I honor him because he was God's anointed. Even King David never dared raise his hands or speak wrongly of Saul EVEN after Saul was cast from God's presence for his unfaithfulness. David spoke of Saul after he died (which was by the Judgment of God) in 2 Samuel chapter 1 "Oh, how the Mighty has fallen." Read up on it, there's a valuable teaching in it. David wrote a song to be taught to all the generations of Israel for the rest of time to Honor a man that did the works of God, even though he rebelled, dishonored God, dishonored the people, was killed as a result of judgment from God. Saul did way worse things than Todd did and yet people rain down hate on him, when not even God's replacement for the former glory wouldn't even dare to do so. Who are we to do so? It would be wise for you Connie, to listen to the mature in Christ and educate yourself.

http://www.ibethel.org/features/sermonoftheweekvideo/

Jen,
Now You are judging Saul!
I didn't judge Todd,You are the one who accused me of judging him.
You still don't get my message:Everything I said had to do with him comparing his tattoos and piercings to Jesus's wounds!
That's all!
I never critized him for his doctrines,failed marriage,heavy drinking or emotional "affair" with another woman!
All I've ever wanted was to honor the wounds of Jesus and to call people's attention that some things are UNTOUCHABLE!
I enquired of the Lord why is it that it seems so hard for people to understand my point since I wasn't judging the man at all!
The Lord told me not to try to explain it anymore because there is a cloud of confusion over people.
I was already talking about this sujbect before the other stuff came to light.
I was also comncerned about something else: I remember when preachers started imitating Benny Hinn.Once an evangelist kept blowing over my face.I didn't feel a thing but I fell as a courtesy to him and then I had to repent before the Lord.I was concerned that people would start imitating him by punching and kicking others out of faith thinking they would be healed.
One thing I know: when I wept before the Lord,the Father said that "the woman" was right.As long as my heart is aligned with the heart of God it doesn't matter what people say.
Having said that,it's very hard when we are saying something and people don't understand what we are saying.
Everyday I have to check for the little foxes that spoil the vine like it says in the Song of Solomon!
I have to repent and forgive and do my best to walk clean in the Presence of the Lord!
In these last years when the Lord revealed His Holiness to me,sometimes out of my mouth comes words such as: "Lord.I want to be holy like You!"
Once a friend of mine who was in bondage to sexual preversation was telling me that everybody sins.The Lord gave me a word for him: not to excuse his sin by referring to other people's sin.
No one is perfect but we must work out our salvation with fear and tremb ling.
God is very forgiving but We must repent and exercise some self control as well.
If Jesus would come today and turn the tables in the temple upside down,people would say that He lacked the love of God and that He was being judgemental.
Look at Paul:Admonishing Peter publicly!-After all wasn't Peter the one who walked on the water?-Didn't he walk with Jesus?-Doesn't the word of God say that we are supposed to correct someone privately?
Prophet Jeremiah would be accused of disrespecting the leaders of Israel!
I am glad that Peter an John cryied out to God when the leaders stopped them from preaching the Name of Jesus.They told the leaders:Judge Yourselves if it is right to obey men rather than God!
Sometimes God sends people with a message of correction but everybody prefers prophecies telling them how powerful they are going to be.
Jenn,sometimes it's hard to say something without sounding proud but I'll say this to You:
You have no idea about my intimacy with God!-I don't need to educate myself!Christ educates me in our many hours together!-The same with the Father and the Holy spirit!
I never gave You a reason for You to accuse me and judge me as You have!-It shows that You are not yet in that place of intimacy with God where You need to be or You wouldn't honor a man above God!-You don't even care about the way that guy disrespected the wouds of Our Lord!
Why are You defending the one whom God removed the kingdom from?-You are just doing what Prophet Samuel did!After the kingdom was removed from Saul, Samuel was still weeping for him!
I don't need a lesson in love and forgiveness because I walk in love and I walk in forgivenss and I have made Jesus My First Love.However I can't ignore My heavenly Daddy with whom I spend wonderful moments because I have come to know Him and to love Him as I love His Son!-As for the Holy Spirit,I love Him with a passion and I minister to Him several times daily.
God is One but We can minister to the Father,the Son and the Holy spirit individually as well.
I write love letters to each One of them,I buy them flowers,I send E-cards to my email adressed to them.I bake a cake for the Father on Fathers's Day,I bake a cake for Jesus Birthday,I do a lot of things that people would make fun off.
Do You know why I am telling this?-It's not to boast but all these little things and the time I invest in His Presence,have brought me to a place of intimacy in Him where I decided not to accept positions and promotions in the church because they would take me away from My Three Lovers!
Also because I have the call for intercession,I can ask the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers and sometimes He has sent me out too.
I desire noting else but to be with God!-Only the Lord knows how many tiomes I have asked the Father to take me home!-I don't place anything and anyone above God!
I ALSO LOVE GOD'S WORD SO MUCH!
I pray that everybody who comes to this page will fall more in love with Jesus!
He loves You and no one can take Your place in His heart!
God loves to be loved!
I don't intend to come back here because the Lord gave me a word earlier today, to stay away from everything (not just this)
So feel free to badmouth me as much as You want!
I probably won't know about it!-Yet, God is listening and God will!
God Bless You all!

Jenn,
I just want to leave this sentence based on everything You wrote above:
YOU ARE STILL HONORING A MAN ABOVE JESUS WOUNDS!
If nothing else stays with You,I hope at least these words will!

I just got this word:We don't need education,We need revelation!
Education,that's what We get from men!
Revelation only comes from God!
As We read His Word and spend time at His feet the Lord will reveal to us that which We didn't know.
It's like in Jeremiah 33:3 "Call unto Me and I will show You great and mighty things thay thou knowest not"
Many times it's only when I am ministering than suddenly I realize that I am saying things that are not my own.(thungs that are according to the Bible).
Once the Lord told me that He takes my spirit into the heavenlies and I hear things.That's why We need to develop intimacy with God!
A good way to do that besudes reading His Word,worshipping and spending time with Him,is by journaling.
I have probably 16 or more exercise books and many files in my laptop with my dialogues with Jesus.In 2203 the Father spoke to me for the first time!Then in 2005 the Holy Spirit revealed Himself to me after I ministered to a Jeovah Witness.It's like in the natural: when people are in love all they want is to be together.
It's the same with God!There is no greater joy than being taken into the dephts of His heart and be consumed in His love!
Every child of God is entitled to these blessings because of what Jesus did on the cross!
I have learned that intimacy with God depends a lot on us!
The Lord loves everyone the same,We are the ones who don't seek Him the same.
I am blessed that I have the chance to spend entire days with the Lord but even when I have to work,the Holy Spirit Himself awakes me up at 3 or 4 AM.
If You feel that Your love for Yeshua is not the same as in the beginning (I am Jewish that's how I call Jesus),You can ask the Father to increase Your hunger and Your thirst for His Son!
Just come child like!
Shalom!
God Bless You!

Connie...you are blind to everything. Jesus is Lord of all. I honor no one above Him...I have said my piece.

For more facts on Todd Bentley, check out these blogs:
http://blog.trentonadams.ca/2008/03/24/todd-bentley-patricia-king-and-emma-the-angel-of-light/

stop this, this is getting out of hand

Brad - I've done the search and found only a few vague and tenuous accusations relation the church making some procedural errors in the way it wanted to help Arnott by paying off his mortgage? Please be careful of making accusations of illegal activity, feel free to do it on your own blog.

Karen - two thoughts, yes, the mudslinging should stop... but in regard of the Bentley situation, it got out of hand months ago IMHO and we aren't honest and ask the tough questions about how/why then we will never learn!

All - As with all comments sections we/I do not necessarily agree or support any of the comments made, and we reserve the right to edit and/or delete any comments that we feel are inappropriate. I do not want to stop comments, this IMHO would stop it being a "Blog" and turn it into a "soap-box"... but please show some responsibility and consideration in the way you comment. Thanks.

CORRECTION AND APOLOGY TO STEVE LONG
English is my second language as I said in my first sentence the other day!
The word "differ" was unkown to me!
I went to Google and I wrote "meaning of differ".I read ..."to stand apart" which to me meant to be asked to be separated.
Since it was what I already thougt,I didn't read anything else.
I was surprised that Steve Long said it wasn't true!
Yesterday I checked again that word and I realized it means tp disagree.
If is is so,then I apologize to Steve Lon.
I just don't understand why he didn't cntact me about this to correct me.
I would never accuse anyone falsely!
If I was lying on purpose,I wouldn't have sent a copy of that articxle to him.
The only thing he "kicked" was everything I said!
I am still sad that no one seems to understand that all of my previous comments were abou a given explanation and not a man'sin.
God Bless You!

"making some procedural errors in the way it wanted to help Arnott by paying off his mortgage?"

Connie! Are you joking! There is no such thing as "tax free donations" in Canada.

As a result Revenue Canada and the Department of Justice are doing a proper deep investigation of the executives of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship!

[edit] I've taken out allegations which where stated as fact which may or may not be true regarding the Arnotts or Steve Long. These are a matter for the Courts should they wish to pursue them... as such I do not think it is right or fair to make statements in a public forum which have not been upheld legally. Mark

"I want my money back!!!"

"I want my money back!" is the cry of many defrauded at Lakeland
by Todd Bentley and Freshfire ministries.

Person after person i talk to wants their money back.
"Fraud", "con-artist", "snake-oil salesman", "liar", "deceiver",
say the trusting christians. Some are now in poverty.

Here are the people at FFM to request in writing, your money back.
Also photocopy your dated and signed request, and mail it to the
FFM offices in Canada and the USA. Finally, Send a copy to the
IRS and Revenue Canada.
This will start the process to reclaim you losses.

Since obvious FRAUD was committed by FFM and others,
this may take a class action lawsuit to get your stolen money back.
The first step is as stated, put it in writing, and mail it to all.
Then, get online with others and take action.
Fraud is unchristian, and illegal. Get your money back now
from those charletons, con-astists, and Frauds.

Contact info follows:

(edited by Mark) as I'm not sure how the contact details have been obtained - and whether it is legal to publish them on here - they have been removed. I'm sure if they are in the public arena that anyone who really wants them will be able to find them easily enough.

Mark, I obtained the info after gruelling searches.
Much from Revenue Canada, and phone calls to them.
I made the effort to hopefully help others do right.
(And people may not have time to find the info)
So it is OK to put up.
No worries though, I popped it onto a few sites. ie.
www.nathancolquhoun.com/blog/index.php/2008/05/28/revival-god-and-todd-bentley-has-left-sa

I hope and pray for justice to be done
on freshfire ministries and Todd Bentley.
They have made all Christians look like fools.

Get the word out everyone. Fraud is a crime.
ffm and TB must pay their debt to society.

All these informations are very sad. It makes me sick to hear all about them. I think one thing that these leaders have forgotten is that "We" Christians are not supposed to be of this world. We are aliens in this world and doing the father's will in preparation for eternity. The Love of money is a root of evil. Maybe a lot of Christian focus is just this world so that they could shamefully get into all those troubles and bringing the name of Christ to shame.It must really break the Father's heart. So wake up and smell the stinge that it causes. People like them should step down their positions for the sake of the Lord's name.

I hesitated to read any comments about Todd and felt like the Holy Spirit was trying to warn me that it would be a waste of precious time that could be spent in fruitful things of the kingdom. My heart and Spirit were utterly grieved as I read terrible things to and from those whom Our Lord and redeemer died for. I wonder what kind of testimony this is to the unbelievers that read these comments. Why would they want to be a part of the body? the accuser of the brethern has appeared to win on both ends. Jesus we need to all go back and read John the 17th chapter and let your prayer and the unselfish spiit in which you prayed for all of us bring us to our knees in humbled repentence. Father forgive me for reading these comments when you tried to warn me how it grieves your heart. I REPENT. Help me to see my brothers and sisters the way you see them. Amen

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