Whilst I found the interviewer to be very cynical/negative, there is much in the broadcast to reflect on. This interviewer called me a 'Guru' in this interview - a title I never asked for and I find demeaning. I think it was deliberately used to bring a negative feel to what I said, nuanced to make my words sound wishy washy and cultic. Interesting that they missed out my main focus of assisting Spiritual Tourists to become go-travelling Christian pilgrims. I think the interviewer gives Mark and Safe Space a difficult time, implying that what they/we do is not authentically Christian. Unsurprisingly, I dispute this, and think the Interviewer has taken a particular track that doesn't go into the depth I would expect of the BBC. You can listen to the broadcast on iplayer here for the next week. The argument could be the same as that raised from someone coming from a very traditional perspective. I don't think the Interviewer understands an understanding of contextual mission or the differences between religion and spirituality - and that at its best, spirituality arises out of authentic religion. It is a shame that the programme did not explore the place of hospitality and relational mission more deeply.